Your Path to Clarity and Inner Peace

In this episode with Laura Hoorweg, we discuss alternative methods and guidance to achieve clarity and inner peace around challenging subject matters. We also discuss channeling and how to connect to the angels, your higher self, and guides. Enjoy!

Transcript

Hello, everyone. This is your host, Keri Logan at Master of the Upper Rooms. And today I have a special guest. I have Laura Horwig, and she is an esteemed international spiritual counselor, an intuitive coach, a psychic medium. And she has this uncanny ability to pinpoint crucial details across all areas of your life. And she brings a unique blend of insight and clarity that resonates with your deepest intuition, all right? She is truly passionate about what she does, and she's all about empowering people and helping them find their authentic self and and live the along the journey of where they want to go what's what's their mission where what and unlock all these wonderful things. I'm just so excited to have her on today. And I know she's smiling, she's laughing there. So everyone, 

Here is Laura. How are you today, Laura? I am fabulous. The sun is shining. All is right in the world. Good, good, good, good, good. So tell us a little bit about you, like how you embraced all of these abilities. And I know for you, for some people, it starts when they're much older. But for you, you had your first... out of body experience at such a young age. Can you kind of shed some light on that? Yeah, it was pretty wild. I was about 14 or 15 and I was out in the summertime doing my thing up north, of course, in Northern Ontario, up working at a canoe camp. And I was actually up on a cliff because we were doing some rock climbing and rappelling. And all of a sudden I just shot out of my body and, 

And I shot up and I found myself in the sky. And then I was like, wow, what's going on here? And then I just shot up again and I found myself looking down on the earth. And I thought, wow, this is really cool. And then I shot up again and I found myself out in the universe looking at other galaxies. And it was an incredible experience and it changed my view of life. life on this planet and how we all worked and all kinds of crazy things. So it was pretty wild when something like that happens to you when you're fully awake. Like it wasn't like this was a dream. Right. I was like fully conscious. And the way I got back in my body was one of the leaders had worried about me because he thought I was too close to the edge of the cliff. 

He grabbed the back of my jeans and he yanked me back from the cliff, the edge of the cliff. So when that happened, it yanked my spirit, my soul, whatever you want to call it, back into my body at just light speed. And it was like, bang, I landed back in my body. And it took me a good two, three days to actually start feeling comfortable in my body again. Because I felt like a sausage. You know how they stuff the sausage meat into the casings? Right. That's exactly what I felt like because I was so expanded. I felt like I was part of everything. And to go from that incredible expansion back into this little tiny body in a relative sense, it was quite a shock. No, I would think so. So what do you experience when you make connections with people 

on the other side. um Well, I, I experienced the whole thing. I, I, through my psychic, I'm all the clairs basically. So I, I see them through my psychic sight. I hear them through my psychic hearing. And I also, I'm very, very empathic and i feel emotions and i feel energy. So I also feel them very much. That's a huge part of what I do is feeling the energy. I talk about everything in terms of energy because everything is energy. And it's quite the experience because not only do I experience them in their individuality, I also experience some of the energy and what it's really like on the other side. So it's a very interesting experience. Okay. Yeah. It goes beyond just getting the message. Right. Now, I know a lot of people are like, oh, I wish I could have these psychic abilities. I wish I could, you know, be more intuitive. How do people build a deep connection with their own intuitive guidance? What's your recommendation? Well, first and foremost, you have to be open to it. Okay. Because a lot of people are very closed in that way. You don't have to believe in it 100%. 

But you at least have to be open to the possibility that there is guidance for you beyond the physical. Okay? So it's an openness to that. But the best way that I've seen for people to really get in touch with their own guidance is through the practice of meditation. You know, I love meditation. I have been a... I've had a meditation practice for... for over the last 11 years. And when I say a practice, okay, a lot of people say, oh, yeah, I meditate. I go, do you meditate every day? Oh, no, that's not a practice. Okay. When it comes to meditation, meditation has a cumulative effect. And if you really want to get the true energy and the advantages of meditation, you need to be doing it every day. But there are still some myths that a lot of people, stops a lot of people from 

meditating. One is that you have to do it for hours and hours. That's not true. Okay. 20 minutes, half an hour every day. If you're dedicated to doing on a daily basis can, uh, marvelous results. You don't have to do hours and hours. The other, the other, um, myth is that you have to be sitting in the Lotus position. You don't even have to be sitting. Okay. I do all my personal meditation lying down because I find that's the easiest way for me because I have a lot of old injuries and things like that for me to totally relax my body and get into the meditative state. Okay. The other one is that um uh the the whole purpose of meditation is to become a good meditator. Okay. That's not the purpose of meditation. The purpose of meditation is to bring the things that you learn and you develop in your meditation practice into your everyday life. That's 

that's the real goal, if you want, or the intention of meditation, is so that you can bring those qualities, you can bring those skills into your everyday life. And one of the huge skills, because meditation affects all four pillars, okay? Physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual. So this is why I'm saying it's the best way to get in contact with your inner self, your authentic self, your higher self, your... Inner child, however you want to look at it, your own intuition and your own guidance. Because everybody is psychic, by the way. Everybody is psychic to some degree. I compare it to basketball. Everybody can play basketball. Some people are just a lot better at it than others. Okay. So it's a different thing with mediumship. Mediumship is a very special gift. 

And that's what a lot of people don't understand. Mediumship is actually receiving messages from people on the other side, okay? All psychic, all mediums are psychic, not all psychics are mediums, okay? They're two very different gifts. So somebody can help, if you already have the gift of mediumship, somebody can help you develop it, but they cannot give you that gift. And this is something that bothers me lately, There's all these people out there telling you that they can teach you to be a medium. Well, they can't if you don't already have the gift. If you already have the gift, yes, you can do things to improve it and to strengthen your gift, but somebody simply can't give you that gift. Whereas psychic abilities are a totally different game because, as I said, everyone's psychic. So how would someone go about, let's say, they know they're a medium. 

how would they go about strengthening that or working on that? Well, the best thing would be to find a mediumship circle, which is where you sit with other mediums and you start learning how to relax your body, how to connect to the other side. I did a little bit of that. But I really just learned it on my own through the guidance of my own team. And when I say team, I mean my guides, my angels, my masters, whatever you wanna call them, by the way, they don't care. And they helped me develop that gift. Now there's different types of mediums too. The one that I think most people are familiar with is an evidentiary medium. And their whole purpose is really to prove that there is life after death, that there is the other side and that people exist on the other side. So they tend to be a lot of, they like to give a lot of details and information like that. My mediumship, my practice of mediumship is more about helping people to heal, okay? Heal from grief, heal from missing their loved ones or their friends on the other side. And 

allowing those people to speak, okay? Delivering messages for them. That is my intention and that's what I love to do because when people receive those those messages it's so healing for people. It just changes their whole perspective and they know that their loved ones are well. And there's also, I can give you a quick example if you want, how powerful. the whole mediumship thing is for people in terms of healing. There was a young man who was riding his motorcycle and who ran dead straight into a tree and he was killed. And I contacted him through one of my group mediumship sessions. And because the police report, because there was no skid marks or anything like that, it was... the police and all the powers that be decided that it was a suicide. And of course, this just devastated his family and all his friends and his siblings, and it was causing all kinds of issues and problems. Suicide in young people can be contagious, okay? So it's not a good thing. But what we found out when he came across in the mediumship session was 

was he had no intention of taking his own life. He made it very clear that he didn't take his own life, but he was responsible for it because he had done something very foolish, which he knew better. He was sick and he'd taken a bunch of over-the-counter cough medicine and cold medicine. And what happened is he literally fell asleep on his bike, on his motorbike. And that's why there was no skid marks. There was no attempt to avoid the accident. But that's a very different scenario than he drove into a tree to kill himself. And it was so healing for his family, his friends. It was just amazing. And that kind of information, without having it being delivered through mediumship, his family and friends would have never, ever known that for a certainty. 

And it was just an incredibly healing experience for everyone. And I think healing for him on the other side too, because he finally was assured that his family knew that, that he did not intend to take his own life. So that's just one example. No, I love how you share that because you and I are very similar in that way. I I've worked with clients and I'm in, in, I connect to above when I sit and I record a session for someone. And there have been so many times, I can't even count how many times where someone that passed away comes in. And like, for example, one time I was working with this lady and I told to tell her that you're my sweetie pie. You've always been my sweetie pie and I always love you. 

And at the end of the session, I was like, who was that? Who came in? And she's like, start crying. That was my grandma. She would always be like, oh my God, thank you. Because sometimes when things come in, it's like, okay, sometimes I know who they are. Sometimes I don't know who they are. And there's been times where I will be shown something and And it's like, OK, you got this stuffed animal and you got it from someone. And I, you know, like you got this. And the lady was like, oh, my God, I do. Yeah. And it's interesting. There was even one time where the lady was about to walk out and in pops in her grandfather. And he was like, no, put your hand on the door like this. Don't let her walk out. I need to talk to her. 

And I was like, okay, fine. And I'm like, I know this is going to sound crazy for you, but your grandfather's here and here's his message. He doesn't want you to tell your other family about this because they always gaslight you and make you feel like you're crazy. And he wants to let you know you're not because she would hear him too all the time. And they would think she's nuts. She's nuts. And I'm like, no, he wants me to stop you and tell you, stop talking to them about it. with him, they literally think you're crazy, but i know you're not. And he wanted me to share that with you. And she was like, thank you. because she was, she thought she was losing her mind. I'm like, no, you're not. This is an ability of yours. And I do know you talked about a talk about, because one time, um, just experimenting. I wanted to see this psychic dude that everyone was bragging about. 

And I sit down and we're all in a circle. And literally, the guy's trying to read people in the group. And he's given this one person advice because their brother died, accidentally died. They thought it was a hate crime or something. He starts giving his thing. But then the brother that died starts chatting with me. I'm not one that's supposed to be the main focus here. So I had to literally chime in and go, no, this is what happened to him. This is, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they were like, really? And I said, this is what he's showing me. This is what he's telling me. And the guy that was the main person was like, who are you? Yeah. Yeah. I've had similar experiences. Yeah. Yeah. So I, I, I, I totally get it. I mean, my advice to people when they want to, let's say, build their intuition is, 

is I tell them it's like a muscle. You go to and you build your muscle. You build your muscle. And the best example I can give people is, let's say you get in an argument and you are about to say something or do something that's going to ruin that relationship. And that inner guidance comes in. Your soul speaks to you and says, if you do that, your relationship will never be the same again. It's like this word of wisdom. And some people listen to it. A lot of people ignore it. I tell people, listen to it because you know, if you go down that path, you are going to cut that person like a knife. You are going to damage and destroy that relationship. And your spirit knows that poor person is important to you. You love that person. You're just angry right now. Your heart is hurting or you're, 

feeling vengeful, that's not the high road. You're taking the low road. And so when we do get those intuitive hits, I tell people, say thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Because when you say thank you, then it will give you more of it. You're building a relationship. And when that relationship starts to build and you start to listen to it more and more, it then becomes, it's going to sound weird, I say it becomes a marriage. it literally becomes a part of you. It's like it locks into place and you're working together as a team instead of separate. So that's, that's kind of how I look at it because our spirit here to work with us. And a lot of people are stuck in this mindset of separation because this is a vessel and my spirit is, 

has had many, many lifetimes and this vessel will perish one day and I'll just go into a new one. Well, yeah. And the thing is like, I love the way you said it's a muscle because, um, and you have to work with it. That that's the biggest way to start. As you said, believe in it. As I said, believe in it and start using it because everybody receives messages a little bit differently too. Okay. Um, that's the big thing. And you don't know if, your guides and angels will experiment on how to communicate with you. And when they start finding something that works, then they'll go in that way. Okay. I'll just give you an example, an examination, an example. I don't know where that came from an example um i have this thing, which i call energy running up and i call it zinging. It runs up and down my body. 

And often when I'm telling somebody something that I've received for them, that sensation in my body will start. And I can tell by how intense that energy is, how close I am, bang on. If it's just like rocking and rolling, I know that what I've just said is absolutely true and dead on. If it's just kind of there, then I know that I have to tune in a little bit more and to get it really super, super precise. So that's for me. Okay. But everybody, like I said, everybody has different ways that their guides and angels will communicate with them. So you have to learn it. And the only way you learn it is by experimenting is by doing. Yeah. So you really just have to open up to it and start doing it. Even if it's just for yourself, sometimes for other people, but you have to be careful with it. 

things for other people okay because you need to have permission okay there's some what I call guerrilla psychics out there you cannot just walk up I've had this actually happen to me and I've really had to talk to the person who's done it they'll just come up to you and they'll go oh I just received a message for you and they'll just start rattling off all this information and that is like totally out of integrity okay once in a while if I get something out of the blue for somebody I know that it's really important, but I will go to that person and I will ask them permission. Okay. I will say, look, I've gotten this information. Do you feel comfortable receiving it? I have no problem in telling it to you. And I know the way that I received it. It's important. Are you willing to receive that information? Okay. You don't just go up to somebody and start rattling. It can be very damaging, very damaging. Okay. 

Especially, this is that i what i was talking right there was psychic information. But it can even be more damaging if you're you you're a new medium and you're starting to get information from people on the other side and you start trying to ambush people with that. That is like really out to lunch because you can really cause more damage i i know most people want help. but you can, that's why when i do mediumship circles, group sessions, um, I always check with everybody in the group because I, normally i will not even have somebody in a group who has, um, who has lost somebody within the last six to eight months. Okay. I just tell them it's way too soon. Um, there has been a few exceptions depending on who it was and, and their relationship to that person. 

But you can do way more harm than good because people just aren't ready to hear that information yet. They need some time to grieve. They need some time to ground themselves in the loss of that particular person. And you can do a lot of damage. There's a lot of people out there that aren't really in integrity and can do a lot of damage. And unfortunately, I try to educate people, but you can only do so much. Yeah. Well, I'm curious because this is a question I think a lot of people would be curious about is. Where do you see humanity going over the next decade and beyond? Oh, my. I know. Loaded question. That's a big question. I really see that we are going to between. I've been shown. OK, let's see. 

let's put it this way. I've been shown by my group, by my team, that by the time we get to 2030, which isn't that far away right okay at this point, it's like less, it's like almost five years. We're almost to 2025. So it's only about five years away. That we are going to look back and go, oh my God, how did we get from where we were to where we are now? That's how different it's going to be. And we are going to evolve so quickly. What they've said to me is in this next, it keeps getting shorter period. Now it's almost five, just over five years. In the next five years, we're going to evolve so quickly. It's going to be like 300 years of evolution in five years. It's just, it's very crazy. They started talking to me about this about seven years, a couple of years ago. Okay. 

So at that point it was seven years. And even when it was seven years, it was very difficult to wrap my head around. Now we're at five years. Okay. And it's already happening. Okay. You're already seeing a lot of this stuff happening. What's going to happen is we are going to become, it's going to be offered to all. Let me put it this way. It will be offered to all. It will not be accepted by all. We are going to be offered an opportunity to evolve incredibly quickly and Okay, to raise our vibrations to almost heights that we can't even imagine now, which is going to cause amazing healings. It's going to cause us to be so like, almost like have like telepathy. Okay, we're going to know and feel each other's thoughts and and um and what we're thinking, which is going to cause a full you know, everybody's always talking about unity consciousness, but we don't have unity consciousness yet. 

But we certainly will, I believe, by 2030. Okay? And our whole system of governance and the way the world works by 2030 will be totally different. Okay? There's going to be some rocking and rolling in between then and now. Because obviously there's a lot of old energies. We're already seeing it. There's a lot of old energies. And they need to leave this. That energy needs to go away. Okay. And it's not going to go away quietly. Okay. It's been here for over 3000 years in our timeframe. It's actually been here longer than that, but that's kind of what we can wrap our heads around. So it's not going, there's going to be definite challenges coming up over the next five years. But the end game is going to be so positive that these, if you stay focused on that, 

Even individually, because we're going to change individually. It's already happening now. People are already going through dark nights of the soul. People are evolving so quickly and so rapidly. Even people that I used to think that there would be no way on earth that this person would ever wake up. Okay. They were so dead asleep. They were so against everything that we've been talking about here. I just thought these people are never going to wake up. Well, guess what? Huh. those people are starting to wake up. But it's all about choice, though. We still will have choice, but we're all going to be affected. And there's all kinds of energies. It's already started. There's all kinds of very high vibrational energy coming into the earth. And when that comes into the earth, guess what? It comes into us, too. So it causes major physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual and vibrational changes for all of us. But 

Stepping through the door, that final kind of click into, this gets really quite bizarre because then we end up with this multiverse where there's different Earths on different planes and the Earths are at different vibrations. The people who decide not to leave karma behind and not to live this higher vibrational life, they will just shift onto a planet. They will be in a multidimensional space. where that equals their vibration. And the people that decide to take that leap and go up to that higher vibration, they will again be on a different plane. And that's all there is. People will just kind of disappear and appear, which will be interesting. And actually, I think this is what was trying to be portrayed in the Bible. In the Bible, they call it the rapture, where people just kind of disappear. 

Right. And I honestly think that that that story, that parable is all about when we start having these wide shifts in our vibration, because if you're not vibrating the same as somebody and there's a big gap between the way you're vibrating and the way they're vibrating, they're just going to disappear to you. We're not going to see them. They're just going to be at a totally different vibrational level than We can't even recognize anymore because we've gone up to the higher octave. So it's going to be a very interesting time. That's all I'm going to say. It's going to be wild. It's going to be great. But it's not going to be without its challenges. Well, without chaos, a lot of people wouldn't change. You have to really appreciate the highs. You need to experience the lows. You need to have that. 

And what you were pretty much just talking about is a lot of people are getting out of that 3d mentality. Yeah. And they're going up into the four and then they're going up into the five, but you have to master the four, which is forgiveness and acceptance and trust and optimism and compassion and patience. You've got to let the hate, anger, and fear go. You really do. And that's what you're, talking about is a lot of people that have been in control and power come from fear. They know how to control the masses. Oh, let's make them afraid. Let's, you know, make, you know, make them dislike. That's why you're seeing all this polarization too. Okay. This, this is another thing, you know, in this world that we live in, one of the biggest basis of our helping us to make decisions is the 

Between what we like and what we don't like. You know, it's got to be contrast. It's got to be black and white in order for us to help us make choices. Now, that won't be true when we're in a higher octave. But right now, we're still in that octave where we need these black and white choices. And this is where the polarization is coming in. Because people are being pretty much forced now. Not pretty much. people are being forced now to start making some decisions. There was a long time where you could just tick tickety boo along and just kind of ignore what was going on. Right. That is gone. That time is gone. I think it's already gone and it's going to be in the next couple of years. It's for sure going to be totally gone. Okay. So this is what I'm talking about. Choices. Okay. Choices are everything. Making a decision and not making a choice is a choice within itself. 

it is. Okay. So all these people think, oh, well, I don't have to make a choice. I'm just not going to choose. Well, if you don't choose, guess what? Nothing's going to change. And you've already made your choice and you're going to end up someplace where, um, you might have preferred to be somewhere else, but because you didn't have the courage to make the choice, you're not going to land there. That's, that's all there is to it. And there's nothing about there's no judgment. There's no punishment. Let me get this straight. There's none of that stuff. It's just people are going to land where they decide that they want to land. That's all there is to it. Yeah. And courage, like you just said, that's the very start of 3D. I mean, out of 3D and into 3D. It's the very start is you've got to grasp onto a hold of courage. And I tell people, stay there, you know, master baseline. Baseline is the, 

frequency vibration that ranges between 200 and 250 and master that where you can just be satisfied and content with your life. Cause a lot of people will complain and moan and feel victimized. And that's all 3d, you know, mentality and you got to rise above it and appreciate what you do have. So a good example is money. A lot of people will say, I don't have enough money. I don't have enough money. And it's like, well, but you do get a paycheck every two weeks, right? That's consistent. Appreciate that two-week paycheck, okay? Really appreciate it. And look at it as how can you manage your money more wisely? It's really not the issue of lack or not having enough. You do have money. But, you know, how can you... 

there's ways you can manifest more, but a lot of people stay stuck. And that, that mindset that, or they think I'll be happier if I have this much money. And it's not, no, that, that is, I love that. Cause I saw some research a few years ago about that. And that is totally untrue. Okay. Cause what the research basically found is once people's basic needs were covered and they didn't have, they, they were basically out of survival mode. Like, they had shelter, and they were fed, and they were clothed, and they had enough to to survive anything as you went beyond that, in terms of the amount of money that you had, it didn't bring any more satisfaction, any more happiness. In fact, in a lot of cases, in the upper levels, okay, and i've known this, I've met people like this, that people who are extremely well off, and they are extremely unhappy. 

so there is the proof that you know the proof is in the pudding just having money and having stuff right does not make you happy happiness comes within you and our our definition of happiness is some kind of gleeful euphoria right and that's not happiness happiness is really just peace and contentment a contented heart a connected contented soul That is where happiness springs from. It's not some euphoric, blissed-out state. And even some people involved in spirituality have a total misconception of what happiness really is. Thank you for sharing that. So before we wrap this up, where can people find you? The easiest way to find, well, you can go to my website, which is just www.spiritspeak2.me. You can find me on Facebook. You can find me on Instagram. If you have any questions or you'd like to set up a session or you want to find out more information, you can email me at laurahorwig at gmail.com. It doesn't get any easier than that. 

Awesome. And to spell her last name, it is H-O-O-R-W-E-G Horwig. And also to let everyone know, I am creating a blog post on Master of the Upper Rooms with her website and all her social media links and everything. So if you're driving your car right now and you can't stop and write this down, know you do have a second resource to find this fantastic information. So thank you, Laura. I am truly blessed to have you on today. You answered so many questions I'm sure people are curious about. So thank you. Oh, awesome. And thank you so much for having me. It was really fun and enjoyable. Yes, it was. Well, you have a fantastic day, Laura, and I know I will be seeing you again soon. Okay, you too. Okay, take care. Bye.